User talk:DanQuigley

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The Thrill Book, May 15, 1919

Your edit to The Thrill Book, May 15, 1919 has been approved. However, a couple of issues needed to be cleaned up. The NONFICTION type should only be used for books. When there is a nonfiction in another type of publication, it is entered as the ESSAY type. However, in this case, both of these essays seem like non-genre content so I have removed them vs. corrected them. In many mixed genre magazines, we only list the genre content. Are the remaining stories all genre?

We do appreciate your submission. ISFDB has some conventions that need learning, but everything should be in the help links in the welcome message above. We hope you will continue to contribute. And please let us know if you have any questions (ISFDB:Help desk is a good resource for asking). -- JLaTondre (talk) 09:15, 29 December 2017 (EST)

Winthrop's Adventure

Hello,

If we change the name of the story as you proposed, it will change it inside of every publication that carries it - and the verified books definitely do not have the longer name. So we have two choices:

  • Create an empty parent -- if we plan to add a book that contains the original name, that is a good idea.
  • Do what I did and just add a note.

If you are going to be adding a book, let me know and I can create the parent. Thanks for the understanding. Annie 22:39, 14 October 2019 (EDT)

Appletons' Journal, April 1881

If I approve this change, it will put the Bellamy story in a 1881 issue - which is not what you wanted to do I assume. If you let me know the name of the story, I can add it for you (or I can give you a step by step on how to add a magazine issue yourself. Let me know. Annie 22:20, 16 October 2019 (EDT)

Posted a response on my page - you can answer here or there :) Annie 18:31, 17 October 2019 (EDT)
Approved and I did a few small changes:
  • Added the title series to connect the magazine (this could have been done on the fist submission as well)
  • Marked is as non-genre (the magazine, not the story)
  • Got the Editor record name updated (this is always a second step post approval)
  • Connected the story to its later iteration. Even if it is the first publication, its other name is used almost exclusively since so the variant goes in the opposite direction to what is usually the case.
The result is here. Let me know if you have any questions :) Annie 10:25, 22 October 2019 (EDT)

Contents

Hello,

I approved the added contents into this one. A few notes for the future:

  • When the page numbers are known, we add them. When they are not, use |1, |2 and so on as page numbers to order the stories so that they show up in the order they are in the book.
(Thanks. I'll keep this in mind. When I added this page, I used the other Koja story collection, Extremeties, as a template, or model for how this one should look. The Extremities entry does not have page numbers or other numbering. Using that entry as my example, I repeated the mistakes made there apparently.) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DanQuigley (talk • contribs) .
No worries :) I looked an look Inside and added these :) And if you cannot see the pages, the pipes help the order. Annie 02:38, 10 May 2020 (EDT)
  • For reprint anthologies, instead of typing/copying the names (and dates) of stories, you can use import. If you go to the publication and look on the left menu, you will see the option. When you do not, each of the stories you typed in need to be merged to its earlier record. That also cuts down on typos. I had merged all the stories (and fixed the typos that prevented some of them). One story had to be treated as a new story - see below. :)
(I'll try to follow these instructions in order to do this next time. Thanks for pointing that out.) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DanQuigley (talk • contribs) .
Any times Annie 02:38, 10 May 2020 (EDT)
  • For stories that had been published before but under a different title (such as Far & Wee/ Far and Wee or different author name form, the reprint gets its date from its first publication under that title/name - not from the original.
. (Since in English '&' and 'and' are both symbols for precisely the same word, I don't consider one to be a variant of the other any more than '2' is a variant of 'two' or 'II'. '&' and 'and' are identical. In fact, calling them variants, it seems to me, can only cause confusion and inaccuracy, making it look like there are two versions when there are in reality but one. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DanQuigley (talk • contribs) .
In this DB, differences like that are considered important enough to record them as they are - so we record them separately. How they are viewed in English is irrelevant. We have our own policies here. :) Variant in this DB means "same material but with different author form or title (down to punctuation) or language or exact text (for translations". So yes, they are the same story but if we have "A, B and C", "A, B, and C" and "A, B & C", we will have 3 records here - 2 of them variants to whatever was the first one. I understand that this is not how you would prefer them but this is how the community had decided to treat them here so this is what we do. Annie 02:38, 10 May 2020 (EDT)

Thanks for adding these! Let me know if you have any questions/concerns. Annie 23:16, 9 May 2020 (EDT)

You can answer here, on your page. Please do not move to a different page - we try to keep the conversations together. Look at the top of this message, press "Edit and you can respond this way. Thanks! Annie 02:38, 10 May 2020 (EDT)

Das Ende der Jagd

The ISFDB uses the title in author's working language as the canonical title even if a translation was published first. Canonical title is not necessarily the first title even for works in the same language, but would be based best known title. Also, even if we were to flip it, that cannot be done by editing the parent. That would change the version in the German publication. Instead, the variant would have to be unvarianted and then the former parent made a variant of the former variant. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:23, 27 May 2020 (EDT)

World of Ptavvs

I holding your edit to World of Ptavvs. You state "Cover artist is Norman Adams (USA), but under this artist's name record in ISFDB he currently is not getting credit for this cover because it's only listed here in this entry as 'Adams'." However, Adams is entered as an alternate name for Norman Adams. If you look at the publication listing, it is shown as "Cover: World of Ptavvs by Norman Adams (variant of The Time of Infinity 1963) [as by Adams]". If you go to Norman Adams, the third entry is "The Time of Infinity" which has "World of Ptavvs" an a variant (since the same artwork was used for both publications). Am I misunderstanding what you are saying? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:57, 16 July 2020 (EDT)

As there has not been an answer, I have had to reject the edit. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:04, 20 July 2020 (EDT)

Perihelion #6

Hello. I have your submission on hold for a moment, as I am wondering if you could tell me if the author of the ESSAY Sex-F is credited as Robert E. Toomey, or actually as Robert E. Toomey Jr. in the publication? I suspect the former, as I have had to reject another submission where you wanted to update the author name to Robert E. Toomey Jr. [as by Robert E. Toomey], which we don't do. The rule for authors applicable here is that we credit as in the pub: if it is without Jr., then that's what we record (we do not add the Jr.). If you want to emphasise that Robert is the Jr. the right way to do so is adding the information into the notes field. Hope that is clear? Regards, MagicUnk 16:13, 26 September 2020 (EDT)

To further clarify, as the canonical name of the author is Robert E. Toomey, Jr. we variant the title record as published to the title record with the author's canonical name. That way, the 'as by' is automatically applied by the ISFDB software, without having to edit the author's name in the title record itself. Regards,MagicUnk 16:17, 26 September 2020 (EDT)

I do not have a copy of the magazine in question. Therefore I can not state with certainty how it appears. I was mostly trying to make matters consistent across all four issues of the magazine he appears in, figuring he would likely appear with the same name in each. Sorry I can not be more definitive for you. Do as you think best.
Hello. Thank you for your answer. If there's no actual source to warrant the correction, it is best to leave as-is. And as the author's name is already varianted to the canonical name, that seems to be the best course of action. I've therefore rejected your submission. If you are having questions, or are unsure how to edit the ISFDB, do not hesitate to ask further questions over at the help desk or community portal. There are always editors and moderators around that are more than willing to help you out. Thanks for contributing, regards, MagicUnk 13:39, 29 September 2020 (EDT)

The Ghost Pirates, A Chaunty, and Another Story

Thanks for submitting the contents of William Hope Hodgson's The Ghost Pirates, A Chaunty, and Another Story! Could you please clarify the source of the information? This 2012 article about the story "The Thing Invisible" claims that it first appeared in "the January, 1912, issue of The New Magazine". I am wondering if the article may have been wrong and the story first appeared in this 1909 collection. I have put the submission on hold for now. TIA! Ahasuerus 12:19, 2 July 2021 (EDT)

Certainly. My source of information is from Ian Bell's introduction to the book Spectral Manifestations by William Hope Hodgson (1984), freely available on Internet Archive. Here is a link: https://archive.org/details/HodgsonWilliamHopeSpectralManifestationsBellknapp1984/page/n7/mode/2up The most relevant material is the last 16 lines of page vi of the introduction: "For the benefit of collectors, the original edition of THE GHOST PIRATES A CHAUNTY AND ANOTHER STORY (British Library copy received 8 September 1909) comprises 68 pages and contains, in addition to the abridgement of THE GHOST PIRATES (pp. 5-43), the sailor's song 'The Hell! Oo! Chaunty' (pp. 47-50), and the Carnacki story 'The Thing Invisible' (pp.53-68)." The bibliography from the last three pages of Spectral Manifestations sheds additional light if any is needed. I hope this is what you were looking for from me. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DanQuigley (talk • contribs) .
That's perfect! I have approved the submission and updated the affected notes. Thanks muchly! Ahasuerus 22:28, 3 August 2021 (EDT)

Dungeons & Drag Queens

I have accepted your addition of Dungeons & Drag Queens. In addition to adding the Amazon cover, I changed the format to "tp". The ISFDB uses a specific set of values. I used "tp" (for trade paperback) based on the dimensions supplied by Amazon. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 10:06, 4 May 2024 (EDT)

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